[WG-InfoSharing] FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

Eve Maler eve at xmlgrrl.com
Tue Aug 21 04:18:42 UTC 2018

FYI, the IEEE P7012 Working Group is holding its first meeting tomorrow. A
number of familiar faces are presenting. (I'm one of them.)


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On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Iain Henderson <iainhenderson at mac.com>

> Hi Colin, my understanding is that the IEEE made a proactive request to
> Customer Commons to take the lead on this work.
> There does seem to be a degree of overlap with User Submitted Terms, but
> that has not made a lot of progress of late. My take on that is that the
> UST work is now better thought of as Information Sharing Agreements rather
> than specific terms; in many ways they amount to the same thing, with the
> latter now being the more common term of art. That in itself is interesting
> in that Information Sharing Agreements was actually the first work product
> in what was them ISWG; we pushed on that door for 3 years or so but ran out
> of steam as the tech did not exist at the time.
> One suggestion, discussed by John W, Andrew and I at IIW was to re-badge
> the User Submitted Terms strand as Information Sharing Agreements. John and
> I are both happy to lead on that work as it is most relevant to JLINC.
> One for discussion.
> Cheers
> Iain
> On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:59, Colin Wallis <colin at kantarainitiative.org> wrote:
> Thanks for this Eve
> Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it
> was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following
> Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that
> time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC.
> Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to
> work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project
> in Kantara.
> Interesting times indeed!..
> In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if
> anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate
> members of IEEE-SA to do likewise.
> Thanks again Eve
> Kind regards
> Colin
> Executive Director
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> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler <eve at xmlgrrl.com> wrote:
>> Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to
>> attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine
>> readable personal privacy terms":
>> https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html
>> "The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to
>> proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be
>> read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the
>> networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to
>> enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with
>> others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the
>> purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these
>> are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy
>> policies do not.)"
>> This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User
>> Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal.
>> Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation,
>> so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she
>> shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the
>> write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our
>> first formal meeting within a month or so."
>> *Eve Maler*Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl
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