<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://185/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ingo,<div><br></div><div>Please count me in also. </div><div><br></div><div>FYI. I enclose an extract from the TM Forum seminar cyber track in Nice on 15/16 May. You will see that DT is very prominent in this area. Similar topics (and some of the same people) will be at the EU hosted/supported meeting to set up the Multinational Alliance for Collaborative Cyber Situational Awareness (MACCSA) - federated trust and the cyber controls framework are major components. <br><div apple-content-edited="true">
<br>regards,</div><div apple-content-edited="true"><br></div><div apple-content-edited="true">Patrick<br><br>Patrick Curry<br>Director<br>Clarion Identity Ltd<br>M: +44 786 024 9074<br>T: +44 1980 620606<br><a href="mailto:patrick.curry@clarionidentity.com">patrick.curry@clarionidentity.com</a><br><br><br><br><br>
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<br><div><div>On 9 May 2013, at 14:13, "Salvatore D'Agostino" <<a href="mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal@idmachines.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Ingo,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I “hate” to say it but count me in, the topic very much overlaps with our practice.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The write up looks good. Agree with Colin, also made a few minor changes to text in line below.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Sal<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:lc-<a href="mailto:bounces@kantarainitiative.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Colin Wallis<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:57 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Ingo.Friese@telekom.de" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">Ingo.Friese@telekom.de</a>; Kantara Leadership Council Kantara<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [KI-LC] New Discussion Group to be proposed - Object Identity (or) Identities of Things<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Great job Ingo.<br>That is a really good first pass.<br>The only change I would suggest is here..<br>'..there is no overall framework how to <<recognize and>> manage identities across different solutions'.<br>IMHO all it needs is putting into the KI DG charter template (Heather can supply) and (subject to any other comments and a sign off by the LC) you are good to go.<br>Cheers<br>Colin<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" id="stopSpelling"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Ingo.Friese@telekom.de" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">Ingo.Friese@telekom.de</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:LC@kantarainitiative.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">LC@kantarainitiative.org</a><br>Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 15:48:55 +0200<br>Subject: [KI-LC] New Discussion Group to be proposed - Object Identity (or) Identities of Things<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="DE" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Dear all,</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="DE" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">We intend to open up a new discussion group “Object Identity” (or)” Identities of Things”<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The current draft of the charter:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Object IdM addresses the handling of identities of things (IDoT), goods and objects. The Internet of Things (IoT) is beginning to evolve and early solutions are now being implemented. In the context of IoT, some Object Identities are managed with proprietary solutions or niche standards that have not been mapped to each other nor interoperate. As a consequence, there is no overall framework how to manage identities across different solutions.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The purpose of the Object IdM DG is to start the evolution of an overarching Identity Framework for the IoT. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Specifically, the group seeks to produce informed<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">r</span>eports which would include recommendations to adopt, build upon and reuse, where possible, existing infrastructure<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">, standards and best practices</span>. The group will also seek to identify gaps in coverage where a requirements document may be needed. For example the possible reuse of core concepts from person Identity and Non Person Entities (NPEs) where it may apply to<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>the i</span>dentit<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">ies<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">t</span>hing<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">s</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The discussion group intends to deliver the following:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">• Deliver “Landscape document” / State-of-the-art analysis of the current Object IdM approaches<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">• Describe the Object IdM problem with exemplary use-cases<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">• Submit article proposal to IEEE about identities in the internet of things<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">• Prepare the foundation for a working group to develop an Object IdM Framework for the IDoT, in support of IoT broader landscape<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I’m still looking for members to sign on. Until now we have Pete and Colin So if you are interested in working with us please let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> Ingo<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br>_______________________________________________ LC mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:LC@kantarainitiative.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">LC@kantarainitiative.org</a><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/lc" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/lc</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>LC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:LC@kantarainitiative.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">LC@kantarainitiative.org</a><br><a href="http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/lc" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/lc</a><br></div></div></div></body></html>