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+1 to all those responses (including rhetorical questions!) Heather!<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:12:42 -0700<br>From: heather@kantarainitiative.org<br>To: lc@kantarainitiative.org<br>Subject: Re: [KI-LC] First draft of a revised OP<br><br>
  
    
  
  
    <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 9/12/12 4:05 PM, Colin Wallis wrote:<br>
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        &gt; I believe that the line at the end of section 3.7 should be
        changed from:<br>
        &gt; &gt; "The following actions require a Majority of the LC
        voting membership"<br>
        &gt; &gt; to:<br>
        &gt; &gt; The following actions require a Majority of the voting
        membership<br>
        &gt; &gt; i.e. "LC" should not be in this section.<br>
        <br>
        Hmm..do you think so?<br>
        So would we go for an all member ballot to select the LC Chair,
        Vice, Sec etc from the WG Chairs?<br>
        The LC voting membership would not decide who amongst them would
        lead?<br>
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    That would be tedious, wouldn't it.&nbsp;&nbsp; No, I think the problem with
    that section is that it talks about LC stuff in a WG section.&nbsp; It
    should say:<br>
    
    <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-indent:.2in"><span style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
      </span>The following actions require a Majority of the WG voting
      membership</p>
    <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left:.65in;text-indent:-.15in;tab-stops:list .5in"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span style=""><span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times\00000d\00000a            New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
          </span></span></span>Election of Working Group
      Chair, Vice-Chair, and
      Secretary; and</p>
    <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left:.65in;text-indent:-.15in;tab-stops:list .5in"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span style=""><span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times\00000d\00000a            New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
          </span></span></span>Acceptance of final Reports
      or Recommendations,
      prior to submission to the LC for all-Member ballot.</p>
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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      <div dir="ltr">As for <br>
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        &gt; * Procedures for handling nominations to any leadership
        position are not<br>
        &nbsp;&gt;laid out in the OP. Are there any categories of
        Members/Participants that<br>
        &nbsp;&gt;are NOT allowed to be nominated in to a position? Should
        there be a minimum<br>
        &gt; nomination period? Can anyone submit a nomination? Need to
        clarify these<br>
        &gt; things.<br>
        &nbsp;<br>
        I think we take what has become routine practice..<br>
        Call for nominations..minimum 1 week till close<br>
        Any member/participant of KI in any membership category can be
        nominated/self nominate<br>
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    OK.<br>
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        &gt; Colin S further raised the question as to whether Members
        who were not WG or<br>
        &gt; DG chairs could be elected to the LC.<br>
        <br>
        Again, use practice so far which I believe is..<br>
        Any WG member who holds an officer position ..Chair, VC, Sec can
        be elected to the LC<br>
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    Just to be pedantic (which is what OP are all about)<br>
    Can a DG member who holds an officer position be nominated to LC
    leadership? (Demonstrably, yes, because I was.)&nbsp; If yes, then does
    that position automatically instil voting rights to the
    Chair/VC/Sec? (To which I understood the answer to be "no" while I
    was Secretary.)<br>
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        Cheers<br>
        Colin W&nbsp; <br>
        <br>
        <div>&gt; From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@colinsoutar.com">email@colinsoutar.com</a><br>
          &gt; To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:heather@kantarainitiative.org">heather@kantarainitiative.org</a>;
          <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:LC@kantarainitiative.org">LC@kantarainitiative.org</a><br>
          &gt; Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:45:16 -0400<br>
          &gt; Subject: Re: [KI-LC] First draft of a revised OP<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; Hi Heather -<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; The suggested changes in the document look good to me,
          with one correction.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; I believe that the line at the end of section 3.7 should
          be changed from:<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; "The following actions require a Majority of the LC
          voting membership"<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; to:<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; The following actions require a Majority of the voting
          membership<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; i.e. "LC" should not be in this section.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; Cheers,<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; Colin<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; Colin Soutar, Ph.D.<br>
          &gt; <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:email@colinsoutar.com">email@colinsoutar.com</a><br>
          &gt; 416 358 1431<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
          &gt; From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org">lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a><br>
          &gt; [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org">mailto:lc-bounces@kantarainitiative.org</a>] On Behalf Of
          Heather Flanagan<br>
          &gt; Sent: September-12-12 10:53 AM<br>
          &gt; To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:LC@kantarainitiative.org">LC@kantarainitiative.org</a><br>
          &gt; Subject: [KI-LC] First draft of a revised OP<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; Hi all -<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; A while back we had started talking about updating the
          By-Laws and Operating<br>
          &gt; Procedures for Kantara. Here is a first draft of a
          revised OP (By-Laws will<br>
          &gt; come out later this week). I have turned on Track Changes
          so you can<br>
          &gt; quickly see what has changed.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; A couple of questions were never fully answered when we
          were initially<br>
          &gt; discussing this a few months back:<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; * Procedures for handling nominations to any leadership
          position are not<br>
          &gt; laid out in the OP. Are there any categories of
          Members/Participants that<br>
          &gt; are NOT allowed to be nominated in to a position? Should
          there be a minimum<br>
          &gt; nomination period? Can anyone submit a nomination? Need
          to clarify these<br>
          &gt; things.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; Colin S further raised the question as to whether Members
          who were not WG or<br>
          &gt; DG chairs could be elected to the LC.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; Thoughts?<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; -Heather<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; --<br>
          &gt; Heather Flanagan<br>
          &gt; Kantara Initiative<br>
          &gt; Skype: hlflanagan<br>
          &gt; email: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:heather@kantarainitiative.org">heather@kantarainitiative.org</a><br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
          &gt; LC mailing list<br>
          &gt; <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:LC@kantarainitiative.org">LC@kantarainitiative.org</a><br>
          &gt; <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/lc" target="_blank">http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/lc</a><br>
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Kantara Initiative
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