[KI-LC] Request for web or Survey Monkey pledge-type page to solicit interest in a blockchain-related WG

Patrick Curry patrick.curry at clarionidentity.com
Tue Nov 7 22:40:25 UTC 2017


If you think that another and rather immature top level standards group is worth investing a bit of time, then ok.  However, I think it is the UK Showcase and the practical aspects in para 2 that KI should target.  

Listening to others, particularly in governments, my concern is that I don’t see a strong enough link with, or business case around, KI’s conformance assessment criteria etc.  May this is just a communication problem.  Either way, I don’t see it getting traction.  Maybe it is just me. Happy to be told I am wrong, but there needs to be some strong customer evidence.

If you agree, sort of, I’d be interested to know what KI wants to do about it as part of its overall value proposition.



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On 7 Nov 2017, at 21:03, Colin Wallis <colin at kantarainitiative.org> wrote:

Thanks Patrick

It really depends on what areas of interest are exposed out of the Survey.

What we could do (at the risk of including something of a leading question) is add that question to the survey, such as 

"Interest in having the WG's scope complementary to ISO TC 307 Distributed Ledger and Blockchain Technologies, and seek a liaison".

Would that work?


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On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Patrick Curry <patrick.curry at clarionidentity.com <mailto:patrick.curry at clarionidentity.com>> wrote:
Hi Eve,

I have been a long time member of the LC but without portfolio (and therefore fairly silent) since my original WG ceased.

I am deeply involved in BC and DLT development in many ways, working with governments and companies, on strategy and specific implementations.  I am also involved with law enforcement on tackling the dark side of cryptocurrencies and underlying flaws in the Internet.  

Colin and Andrew know me well from ISO SC27 and many identity activities.  However, I am also in several WGs in TC 307 Distributed Ledger and Blockchain Technologies, which meets next week in Tokyo.  London will be hosting the next meeting of TC307 in May 18, and following up with a UK Showcase of DLT collaborative demonstrators with international partners.  And there is more going on elsewhere that might be of interest to KI. 

I am wondering how the above might best synergise with KI’s interests in this area.  Perhaps KI should ask for a liaison with TC307.



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On 6 Nov 2017, at 19:40, Eve Maler <eve.maler at forgerock.com <mailto:eve.maler at forgerock.com>> wrote:

Thomas and I have been helping Bob Olsen with his press release announcing the availability of the Blockchain and Smart Contracts Discussion Group Report, and soliciting interest in a follow-on WG, as the DG recommended forming. Since we can't direct people to an already-forming WG, I suggested gathering feedback and interest in survey form. Colin said creation of such a thing should be supported by the LC. I'm guessing "supported" means materially, with resources? -- or managed? Is my assumption correct? Would KI staff jump in with this?

Right now such a page is on the critical path to publication of the release.

Here are some elements I thought would ideally be present in a survey:
Affiliation (optional?)
Proposal for scope of the WG (it would be a good idea to show them what the scope of the DG was, for comparison)
Proposal for deliverable(s) of the WG
Expressions of interest to serve in a leadership role
Maybe a free-comment field for other stuff?
By the way, I put Thomas in touch with some others who are concretely interested in such a group, and they've been discussing the topic off and on...

Thanks in advance!
Eve Maler
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