[KI-LC] FW: Media query from SC Magazine - deadline 2/26/2016 17:30:00

Patrick Curry patrick.curry at clarionidentity.com
Sat Feb 20 17:03:52 CST 2016

Ken, Colin,

Thank you for that interesting summary, especially on the data analytics.  The lead of EU Project MAPPING is also the UN Special Rapporteur on Privacy, Prof Joe Cannataci.  I have just spent the last week with Joe and MAPPING.  We also had a day on predictive data analytics with experts from 4 nations.  In early April a few MAPPING leads, including myself, are meeting with Apple, Google, Microsoft and 3 other companies in DC for 2 days to discuss the current privacy situation, including law enforcement.  The Apple San Bernadino case will probably come up.  GDPR and the Data Protection Directive definitely will.

I am looking for more info on +/- on data analytics and would welcome anything you can provide or experts that you can recommend.


PS.  I will be in CC Wed-Mon, then Sydney for 2 weeks.


Patrick Curry
Clarion Identity Ltd

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On 20 Feb 2016, at 22:10, Ken Dagg <kendaggtbs at gmail.com> wrote:


I can't take on the whole task. However, I spent an hour and addressed one of the questions: What happens to privacy when biometrics are thrown into the mix? 

Before anything is said, I know I went beyond the scope of the question in my response by discussing privacy as a whole and broaching the topic of big data and privacy. In my opinion, the answer to the question asked is in the first two, maybe three, paragraphs.

Is this the sort of response you were looking for?

I welcome comments and suggestions from other LC members.



The perception that something should happen to privacy because biometrics enter the mix is erroneous. 

Privacy is a state that is respected when an individual understands and consents to how their personally identifiable information (PII) is collected, maintained, used, disclosed and disposed. Biometric information, given its uniqueness to each individual, should be considered to be PII. 

It should be noted that jurisdictions around the world have identified that respect of an individual's privacy is technology agnostic.

For the US Government NIST Special Publication 800-122 defines PII as "any information about an individual maintained by an agency, including (1) any information that can be used to distinguish or trace an individual‘s identity, such as name, social security number, date and place of birth, mother‘s maiden name, or biometric records; and (2) any other information that is linked or linkable to an individual, such as medical, educational, financial, and employment information."

In other countries with privacy protection laws derived from the OECD privacy principles, the term used is more often "personal information". This term, in general, is broader than PII. For example, there are two pieces of legislation that cover privacy at the federal level in Canada: the Privacy Act and the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (PIPEDA). The Privacy Act relates to an individual’s right to access and correct personal information the Government of Canada holds about them or the Government’s collection, use and disclosure of their personal information in the course of providing services (e.g., old age pensions or employment insurance). PIPEDA sets out the ground rules for how private-sector organizations collect, use or disclose personal information in the course of commercial activities across Canada.

Both acts is essence define personal information to be any factual or subjective information, recorded or not, about an identifiable individual. This includes information in any form, such as:
* age, name, ID numbers, income, ethnic origin, or blood type;
* opinions, evaluations, comments, social status, or disciplinary actions; and
* employee files, credit records, loan records, medical records, existence of a dispute between a consumer and a merchant, intentions (for example, to acquire goods or services, or change jobs).

Excluded is information concerning the name, title, business address or telephone number of an employee of an organization.

Both acts identify how personal information should be collected, maintained, used, disclosed and disposed. Of interest is the requirement to identify a retention period for the personal information that is collected about an individual and how that information is expunged from an organization's records.

Also of interest is how the power and versatility of re-identification algorithms have significantly increased the ability of identifying an individual without the use of PII. As such, Big Data is becoming an issue in privacy circles.

On Saturday, 20 February 2016, Colin Wallis <colin_wallis at hotmail.com <mailto:colin_wallis at hotmail.com>> wrote:
This came through the staff list as you see.
We can probably add some value here, but I know my spare time these next few days is tight and I could only do something lightweight.

Does someone want to while away their weekend and take on the whole job? :-).

Alternatively, put your hand up for a question or two. 

And we pick up loose ends (or not) at the end.

Hands up now  through Sunday night..


> To: staff at kantarainitiative.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','staff at kantarainitiative.org');>
> Subject: Media query from SC Magazine - deadline 2/26/2016 17:30:00
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:19:16 +0000
> From: assistant at itjournalist.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','assistant at itjournalist.com');>
> From: Kim Lynk <assistant at itjournalist.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','assistant at itjournalist.com');>>
> Subject: Media query from SC Magazine - deadline 2/26/2016 17:30:00
> Message Body:
> My name is Kim Lynk, personal assistant to Danny Bradbury. Danny is a freelance tech writer for multiple outlets. Danny is writing an article for SC Magazine on ID Management. Would Kantara Initiative be able to answer some questions by his deadline of 2/26/2016 17:30:00?
> At airports around the world, travelers' identities are routinely verified using biometric identification. Recently in India, a new facility for pension distribution adapted an iris authentication scanner to validate citizens. New generations of fully integrated, end-to-end cloud identity management platforms offer clients secure and flexible means to pick and choose which services they need. For this latest ebook from SC Magazine, we speak to a number of experts with hands-on experience about how these advances in technologies are changing the face of identity management and opening up new opportunities for the enterprise to become more secure—and we’ll throw in a few caveats (for one, what happens to privacy when biometrics are added to the mix?) that any organization should heed when revamping its identity management strategy.
> Here are the questions he's exploring:
> What are the latest advances in ID Management technology?
> How has it evolved over the years?
> What happens to privacy when biometrics are thrown into the mix?
> How are ID management systems and access management/roles-based management converging? 
> ID management has been largely about people in the past. How will the Internet of Things change that, if at all?
> Is authentication keeping up with trends in ID management?
> My identity as my wife sees it may be different to my identity as my bank sees it, which may be different again to my identity as my employer sees it. How do we cope with multiple attributes in ID management? 
> How do we maintain and preserve identity in the long term, as a person's life and circumstances change? 
> Are there standard for ID management?
> What are the biggest challenges facing companies that want to design and deploy their own ID management systems?
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
> Best regards,
> Kim Lynk
> Personal Assistant to Danny Bradbury
> 913.706.6926
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