[KI-LC] Dissolution of WG Guidance
Bob Pinheiro
kantara at bobpinheiro.com
Fri Jul 13 14:51:58 EDT 2012
FYI, I send the following email to the Consumer Identity WG mailing list:
> You are receiving this email because you are registered as a
> Participant in the Kantara Initiative's Consumer Identity Work Group
> <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/WGCI/Home>, or you
> are on the CIWG mailing list.
>
> The CIWG was formed as a continuation of the old Liberty Alliance
> Identity Theft Prevention Special Interest Group. The purpose of the
> CIWG was to focus Kantara interest and resources on helping to enable
> high assurance consumer identity and authentication solutions for
> identity fraud prevention on the Internet. However, due to
> uncertainty as to how to achieve such goals, as well as low levels of
> participation and a lack of funding, the CIWG never achieved its
> purpose. CIWG has now been inactive for the past year, and the last
> telephone meeting was held on June 29, 2011. We discussed on that
> call whether the WG should disband (meeting notes here
> <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/WGCI/CIWG+Agenda+and+Minutes-2011-06-29>).
> But because other initiatives were just getting under way at that time
> that could have an impact on consumer identity, such as the National
> Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace (NSTIC), it was decided
> to take a "wait and see" approach before making any further decisions
> on the future of the CIWG.
>
> Now that a year has passed, it is time to take definitive action to
> decide on the future of the CIWG.
>
> NSTIC is just now getting off the ground, with a first meeting of the
> NSTIC Steering Group scheduled for August 2012. Funding for pilot
> projects will be announced later this summer. So in the US anyway,
> there are now other potential opportunities for those interested in
> consumer identity issues to have an impact.
>
> Unless there is any reasonable chance that the CIWG can, at this
> point, define a set of work products and recruit the resources needed
> to generate such products, I believe it is time to formally disband
> the CIWG. This will require taking a vote among the voting
> Participants of the CIWG, or requesting that the Kantara Leadership
> Council shutdown the CIWG due to lack of activity. Another
> possibility is to convert the CIWG into a Discussion Group. However,
> unless there is sufficient interest among Participants to meet from
> time to time to discuss topics related to consumer identity, this
> option would not seem to be viable.
>
> If you would like to initiate any discussion on the CIWG's future,
> please respond to the list, or to me directly. Otherwise, unless there
> is sufficient interest expressed in converting to a Discussion Group,
> or someone can make a strong case for continuing as a Work Group, I
> will take steps within the next few weeks to disband the CIWG.
>
> Thanks
> ---------------------------
> Bob Pinheiro
> Chair, Consumer Identity WG
> 908-654-1939
> consumerid at bobpinheiro.com
> www.bobpinheiro.com
>
>
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On 7/13/2012 11:08 AM, Joni Brennan wrote:
> Thanks Colin,
>
> Yes this is the process that Trent and Eve took the lead developing to
> complement the OPs way back in the first year of KI. I think it's
> clear too. If we need to discuss further on an LC call we certainly
> can. But I would suggest that a group wanting to follow this process
> would, as a next step, call a vote and make clear the requirements for
> it to carry (75% supermajority) and and go from there.
>
> If chairs have questions they can contact me.
>
> thanks!
>
> =Joni
>
> Joni Brennan
> Kantara Initiative | Executive Director
> voice:+1 732-226-4223
> email: joni @ ieee-isto.org <http://ieee-isto.org>
>
> Slideshare - Building Trusted Identity Ecosystems - It takes a village!
> http://www.slideshare.net/kantarainitiative/kantara-may-2012
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Colin Wallis
> <colin_wallis at hotmail.com <mailto:colin_wallis at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> It seems to work for me...or am I missing something?
> Perhaps a bit circuituous, but it works, yes?
> Cheers
> Colin
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: joni at ieee-isto.org <mailto:joni at ieee-isto.org>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:49:40 -0700
> To: LC at kantarainitiative.org <mailto:LC at kantarainitiative.org>
> Subject: [KI-LC] Dissolution of WG Guidance
>
>
> LC,
>
> I've reviewed the Operating Procedures and find no procedures with
> in a work group for the dissolution of a WG. I do find 2 ways in
> which actions are defined.
>
> 1. Via a simple majority vote of the LC (OPs section 2.6), and
> 2. according to the process defined by the LC
> (http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/3oCdAg).
>
> I suggest LC review item 2 because it actually defines what leads
> up to item 1. For a Work Group to self-shut-down (decharter) they
> would need to hold a super-majority vote with in the WG and then
> notify the LC of the results of that vote.
>
> For example: Consumer Identity WG has 6 voting members
> (http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/IQCX) so at least 5
> people (4.5 is supermajority) must vote affirmative for the
> decharter action.
>
> Should it be proven that this vote is attempted, has opportunity,
> but can not be achieved, it would seem apparent that this decision
> comes back to the authority of the LC OR the group continues but
> does not generate quarterly reports > kicking off the quarterly
> reports process as defined in item 2. That bit of detail should
> close the questions about what happens when a group may seek to
> decharter. Please advise if there are questions or concerns.
>
> Thanks!
>
> =Joni
>
> Joni Brennan
> Kantara Initiative | Executive Director
> voice:+1 732-226-4223 <tel:%2B1%20732-226-4223>
> email: joni @ ieee-isto.org <http://ieee-isto.org>
>
> Slideshare - Building Trusted Identity Ecosystems - It takes a
> village!
> http://www.slideshare.net/kantarainitiative/kantara-may-2012
>
>
>
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