[DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM

Colin Wallis colin_wallis at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 14 11:18:35 CDT 2014

I will be in Utrecht, but will need to catch up a little bit on some items in DG-IDoT to be effective.I have been following the list, but not attending calls.CheersColin  

From: Ingo.Friese at telekom.de
To: iglazer at salesforce.com
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:26:29 +0200
CC: dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM

Hi Ian, Of course…are you or anyone of the group in Utrecht?    From: Ian Glazer [mailto:iglazer at salesforce.com] 
Sent: Donnerstag, 14. August 2014 15:44
To: Friese, Ingo
Cc: dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM To you point about relationships. The Identity Relationship Management WG had its first meeting this week. I expect a healthy amount of interactions between the two WGs. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:53 AM, <Ingo.Friese at telekom.de> wrote:Hi , Few comments about Scott’s this Venn diagram: -          I like it very much because it shows that Object IDM is not only an extension of user-IdM, it has to be addressed with new approaches 
-          Currently there are three circles (device, person, organization). Are there more circles possible? I guess… but these three are a good starting point for the moment
-          To me these circles are rather bubbles (I don’t know how to draw this ;-)…because the connections e.g. btw. device and person might have different  flavors
My mobile phone (incl. its sensors) for example might be a  personal device ( I bought it private) or maybe its my personal device but paid by my company
infact the relationship btw. me and the personal device then is different
-          I think relationships play a central role in this discussion (see the NIST asset spec…Scott sent to the list)
Best Ingo 
    From: dg-idot-bounces at kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idot-bounces at kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Mildner, Frank
Sent: Dienstag, 12. August 2014 17:41
To: sshorter at electrosoft-inc.com; dg-idot at kantarainitiative.org
Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM Hi Scott, Last Friday you introduced some ideas regarding Entity Relationship Modelling the Identities of Things. Thank you very much – for your presentation. Ingo and me have the  ERM issue in our mind for a long time. I think your ERM is a good starting point – as you show at slide 3 and 6 A missing key indicator in the IoT ID landscape is the information in rhomb ! In an IoT example: a sensor – belongs, is owned, scales, ……- something  I think we need rather filled/stuffed/intelligent links between objects,  instead of poor SQL links .  I would like to start a discussion in our group  about  mechanism whereby  we can find an object based on the relationship. (rhomb in slide6) Have a nice day – see you   Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Viele Grüße / Best Regards
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Betreff: [DG-IDoT] Notes from today's call My quick action items:Here's the link to join the Kantara SDO liaison subcommittee, to participate in the email list and access the review files on the wiki: http://signup.kantarainitiative.org/liaison-sub-committee/TSCP workshop: http://tscpworkshop.com/  I think we're participating in the "securing the supply chain" trackMy longer term action items:Re-visit ITU-T's OID as an namespace model in light of XRI's capabilitiesReview SCAP's Asset Identification standard (and Common Platform Enumeration (CPE), Common Vulnerability Enumeration (CVE)) as namespace modelsShare Kantara's comments about identity proofing non-person entities from last year's comment process with the list.Whew. Have a good weekend!-Scott-- ==============================================================Scott Shorter, Principal Security Engineer
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